Hi I have dodge grand caravan 2010 3.3l no start if I hol...


Hi I have dodge grand caravan 2010 3.3l no start if I hold gas pedal too floor then its start and die Mechanic's Assistant: Will the headlights turn on? Is the [battery](/topics-battery-dodge/) fully charged? Yes Mech...

Hi I have dodge grand caravan 2010 3.3l no start if I hold gas pedal too floor then its start and die Mechanic's Assistant: Will the headlights turn on? Is the [battery](/topics-battery-dodge/) fully charged? Yes Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your Grand Caravan yourself? What have you tried so far? I change spark plugs and clean [fuel injector](/topics-fuel-injector-dodge/) Mechanic's Assistant: Anything else you want the Mechanic to know before I connect you? When I keep holdings gas pedel its start with black carbon on exjust on floor and white smoke

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sir I am auto mechanic in scan its give me only code for multiple misfire
Automotive Expert
only p0300? nothing else?
Automotive Expert
ok check your fuel pressure next and take a fuel sample at the fuel rail if pressure is good and let me know what you find.

Before change spark plugs and clean fuel injector i had code p0113 and p0522 i change oil pressure sensor too
Automotive Expert
ok check your fuel pressure next and take a fuel sample at the fuel rail if pressure is good and let me know what you find.

When I keep holding gas pedel now its start with black carbon on floor from exjust(muffler)and lot of white smoke until i keep holding gas pedel
Automotive Expert
ok check your fuel pressure next and take a fuel sample at the fuel rail if pressure is good and let me know what you find.

Before change spark plugs and clean injector it was not starting even I keep holding gas pedal but now its start if I keep hiding gas pedel but lot of smell and white smoke from from exjust(muffler)K sir tomorrow I will send u detail after check fuel pressure before injector rail.tks
Automotive Expert
awesome thanks

I sir I check compassion test and found car only start if I remove fuel pump fuse
Automotive Expert
so it runs and drives ok with the fuel pump fuse removed?

Its keep cranking if I hold gas pedel to floor its start with lot of black carbon from muffler then lot white smoke but as soon I remove gas pedal its stopBut I I check if I remove fuel pump fuse its start without holding gas pedel
Automotive Expert
so it starts and stays running and you have taken it out on a test drive ?

No I don't go for test drive cuz after few minutes I think its will dieCuz I remove fuel.pump fuseWhat can be problem?
Automotive Expert
that sounds like your running off the fuel that dumping into the cylinders, what was the fuel pressure when you checked and send a picture of the fuel sample you took, put it in a clear jar and let it settle so I can see what it looks like
Automotive Expert
that sounds like your running off the fuel that dumping into the cylinders, what was the fuel pressure when you checked and send a picture of the fuel sample you took, put it in a clear jar and let it settle so I can see what it looks like

I take for test drive no problem just little miss fire and little hard start after remove fuse for fuel pumpBut if I put back m25 fuel pump fuse back its die again and no start
Automotive Expert
ok scan for codes next and see what comes up

K
Automotive Expert
thanks

I have 4 codes now p0108P0108Manifold absolutely pressure sensor circut high and p0113 and p0300P0113
Automotive Expert
ok start it up and monitor voltage at the battery for a few mins and see what its peak and low is

Fuel pressure regulator on this van whats location

U think I need new tipm?
Automotive Expert
something sounds bad we need to check charging voltage next to make sure thats ok

Sir whats next ?Viltage is 13 75 to jump 13.67U think its fuse box as it common problem on this carcwith tpim or throttle?
Automotive Expert
ok voltage is good, follow these tests below and let me know what you find https://www.dropbox.com/s/3llswf16jp9meb3/thurs3.pdf?dl=0

Link u send me for replace engine mounts2008 chevy uplander engine mounts replacement we was talking about grand caravan 2010 3.3 hard start essue
Automotive Expert
sorry about that file error, heres the right directions https://www.dropbox.com/s/nx1oujsy21x2wwx/thurs4.pdf?dl=0

Sorri sir but .anifold code come on by my mistake cuz I open manifold for check injectore leaking and crank engine while it was open now I have on multiple misfire nothing else code
Automotive Expert
gotcha, you want to smoke test the intake for leaks if thats ok follow this below. https://www.dropbox.com/s/thms4bol955jj2y/thurs5.pdf?dl=0

How to do smoke test where I put smoke machine ?
Automotive Expert
you can use the [brake](/topics-brake-dodge/) booster hose and cap off the throttle body

I done smoke test no leaking and check all spark plus sparks and injector I check on car while crank they are spray one by one whats next step sir(fuel pressure while crank was 50+psi)
Automotive Expert
follow the test procedure I sent above

I check all good still no start
Automotive Expert
if nothing was found then pcm is bad

U think its tipm today I try even ti0m from 2008 grand caravan but car get no voltage u have any idea from which year to which tipm are same?
Automotive Expert
should be 08-10

Whats location of pcm ?
Automotive Expert
under the drivers dash kick panel https://www.dropbox.com/s/6o9hr0huh2jbszc/sat.pdf?dl=0

pcm I can try from.same model of another van(i have another same same )how to test pcm sir and plz conform I can put same model car pcm for try?
Automotive Expert
yes you will have to program it to yours for it to work

Sir how to test throttle.body cuz on my scanner throttle blade position show at 100% on stop car and even crank its show 100% and I see plate is close
Automotive Expert
there should be a code for it, is nothing coming up? can you go into each module and look for codes?

tps 1 volt show 4.4957 and tps 2 volts show 0.0024
Automotive Expert
there should be a code for it, is nothing coming up? can you go into each module and look for codes?

No code
Automotive Expert
have you switched out the pcm yet ?

How to check throttle body and wire connect to it sir?
Automotive Expert
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mww471e8204ey7b/sat10.pdf?dl=0

I need to test wiring harness goes to throttle body how to test it sir?
Automotive Expert
have you switched out the pcm yet ? https://www.dropbox.com/s/g21qpzav2tus04f/sat10.pdf?dl=0

No but I see when I move some wires tps2 volts start jump thats why I want check connection plug goes to throttle body maybe problem is wiring harnessPlz tell me how to test
Automotive Expert
refer to the document I just sent, more than likley your issue is caused by the pcm though

I check documents u send but no link for check plug goes to throttle body
Automotive Expert
scroll down again please https://www.dropbox.com/s/g21qpzav2tus04f/sat10.pdf?dl=0

Sir there is any way to test pcm before buy new one ?Throttle body voltage ok now(plug was loose) still no start
Automotive Expert
yes you checked it before and it tested bad

I did not test itHow to test it?
Automotive Expert
check power and ground and connector if you have power and ground replace pcm

Fuel injector spray good rail.preaaure is 50 psi plus and all spark after wire working even I pit new spark plugs timing ok I check compression test all cycling more then 150 and no vacume leak smoke test done even I check tpm (fuse box)swap with another car everything ok still cranking no start no codeHow to check power and ground where?
Automotive Expert
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kld5qbj5uof4yx9/sun2.pdf?dl=0

I don't have this special tool Miller 3518 for test pcm ground sir there is no another way to test it?
Automotive Expert
yes with a multimeter check to body ground

How?Plz explan how ?
Automotive Expert
bacl probe ground on connector with t pin or probe and check to body ground with your meter

Which connector plz explan more by photo or something
Automotive Expert
everything is in the directions I sent you, its shows you how to check ground in the first step, it has pictures and which pins to check scroll down to step 2

Hi I order pcm and waiting for it to come Nd there is short also I think on van I remove positive battery tunnel and put test lamp between positive wire and battery light turn on I remove all fuse one by one still light stay on whats that meaning?
Automotive Expert
that means you have a draw, heres how to do the tests below properly make sure there is nothing on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRcj1fQcWwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF1gijj03\_0

This one I test even after remove fuse all still same
Automotive Expert
then your not doing the test right, you need to go over the tests again

Hi sir can u plz explan how to check ground on map sensor and how to give direct ground and location of grounds in this van please. Thankyou
Automotive Expert
sure you will need to open a new question, thanks

New question?I am still on same car and problem its crank no start issue I want test ground on map sensor now
Automotive Expert
yes there is only so much we can do per question I would be happy to help, just open a new question thanks

Where open new question?
Automotive Expert
just go to the main menu

I done all what u ask me to do even order new pcm still no start only crank yhats why I want test ground on sensor(map)Do I need to pay again?
Automotive Expert
you will need to open a new question still I dunno about payments you will have to call customer service for that

Issue is same so why I need to open new question and pay?
Automotive Expert
its past the limit, sorry

Ok I understand now its only scam site no solve issue payed for nothing
Automotive Expert
ok have a good day

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